Wednesday, January 5, 2011

WARNING WARNING WARNING


  • Single charismatic leader.
  • People always seeming constantly happy and enthusiastic. Especially if you discover that they have been told to act that way for the potential new recruits.
  • Instant friends.
  • If you are told who you can or cannot talk to or associate with.
  • They hide what they teach.
  • Say they are the only true group, or the best so why go anywhere else.
  • Hyped meetings, get you to meetings rather than share with you.
  • Experiential rather than logical.
  • Asking for money for the next level.
  • Some cults travel door to door during times when women are home alone. They, and this is rather sexist, think that women are easier to recruit and once they have the woman then it will be easier to snare the husband or partner.
  • Saying that they have to make people pay for it because otherwise they will not appreciate it. This is of course a very silly reason, plenty of people are able to appreciate things which they did not pay for.
from : howcultswork.com

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Death curse spoken by David Eells over 8 people | christian sniper counter strike – we know game

Death curse spoken by David Eells over 8 people christian sniper counter strike – we know game

Death curse spoken by David Eells over 8 people

 
In this original email conversation:
Michael Cruz [MC] (Saltministries, Seattle, WA)
http://www.saltministries.wordpress.com
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David Eells [DE] (Unleavened Bread Ministries, Sweetwater, TN)
http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org
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Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:33:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Dear Friend Michael
From: dave32506@americaslastdays.com
To: dolmundo@hotmail.com
On 1/4/11 2:03 AM, “Michael Cruz Dolmundo” <dolmundo@hotmail.com> wrote:
[MC] Hi David I can help you if you want help.
[DE] You need your help to save your ministry which I would have done. Slanderers and railers cannot enter the kingdom.
[MC] That help requires you to repent of slandering and accusing people.
[DE] What are you doing??? I have spoken the truth by witnesses. You only need a lie from a fornicator to slander us.
[MC] You said “Despite all the back stabbing and hiring a harlot who is a compulsive liar against me I have been praying for you all” we have not hired anyone God as sent us to her we never even hear about her and why in the world an “elder” would call someone a harlot?
[DE] God didnt not send you to get a known slanderer and you did not come to me as commanded. She has confessed to being a fornicator and adulterer as you will see. Just as you cast demons out of Peter and Tom we cast them out of her many times.
[MC] David God is tired of all the manipulation and deceit going on in UBM.
You Said “By the way we never said women couldn’t preach in the streets. We said what God says, they cant teach or take authority over the man. This was spoken in the church.” now that is not what Rory is teaching and by doing that he is putting condemnation upon those faithful servants that want to get up from their butt and Go into the streets to preach the gospel.
You said “This seems to have started after our techs decided we could not use that server. I heard you say something about separating from us when you spoke to me about this on the phone and wondered what in the world you were talking about. You told us it was worthless and you would just trash it if we sent it back, so you knew this before you sent it. Is it because we are of no use to you that your true feelings came out?” That is just wrong to accuse me in that way I told you you should separate your content from any other not that I wanted to separate from you. And yes i paid a lot of money to send it to Jonathan because it’s a good server but I have many servers and do not need that one, but please send it back to me I can give it away to someone that can use it.
[DE] You said it was worthless and you would trash it if we sent it back. Kind of you to waste our time. As soon as you saw we would not be any gain to you, you all began to rail at us.
[MC] You said “She is now combing through our old enemies on the site like Matt Stephens looking for something or someone to accuse us.” She never looked at Matt Stephens site and we would of never connected with him we have some discernment and can see he’s fake from miles away.
[DE] You’re lying, Elizabeth already mentioned to witnesses that she found T and how Robin misatakenly sent her to Mat who then tried to seduce her. So she ran after him day and nite. There is no other place this is found than Matts page.
[MC] You Said:
“But brother, we ARE preaching in a way that reaches many more people and it is OPEN AIR preaching. Our voice just carries farther than the methods used 2000 years ago, which they would have used had they been available. ) It was God who opened the door and gave us instructions to do it this way. He paid for it and we didn’t even take up an offering. He sent gifted people to work with us without us even asking, Producers, many technical people, many editors, publishers, gave us freely a publishing company, all the money we need to do it with, gave us understanding of the future and how to avoid the coming judgments, gave hundreds of dreams, visions, and prophecies of our direction and confirmations of who we are. Sorry brother, you are not using common sense and you ignore what is before your eyes. This has happened before in history. Look at the links I sent if perhaps God will open your eyes.”
Do you know how many people (sinners) I can reach in one day? Open air preachers can reach more sinner in one day that you can in one year because sinners do not listen to UBM. You have to go to where they are in the streets.
[DE] Sinners are being converted constantly at UBM. They pass you up on the streets while you rail at them. Anybody can see this in your videos.
[MC] What happened to the money God supposedly gave you for pastor Bob to start the worldwide broadcasting? If you want people to be part of your ministry you have to be crystal clear about where the money goes.
[DE] Pastor Bob has some of it as everyone here knows. The rest is ready to broadcast as everyone here knows. God has told us to wait for his timing. So we are taking out time with the 24/7 int. radio schedule because we will use it for satellie. I don’t get the contributions for UBM. They are not sent to me. Everyone who has ever been to my house knows how simple I live in order to get the gospel out. My address is no where on the site. Hasn’t been for many years. I live by faith. Do you?
[MC] You said:
“Maybe you don’t see but the people who hear our messages go out and speak to multitudes and bear more fruit. We are growing exponentially because we are training more and more evangelists. Are you? Where are they? Those we teach are not under a law, which is legalism and separates from God – Gal.5:1-6, but they share from the heart and Spirit, not condeming everyone which we are forbidden – 1 Cor.5″
Come on my friend how can anyone hear your message and go out to preach the gospel the way God as commanded when you have no clue how to do it. And that audio you send me about true evangelism is not addressing the method of reaching the masses using God’s law to bring conviction of sin. Lifestyle evangelism is not the method God uses to save the lost is just a commandment from God to all believers to be a light shining in this world.
[DE] Why are you fruitless? I have never met but one convert of yours and Tom said he was demon possessed.
[MC] You said:
“Brother, you don’t know what you are speaking of. We have received more persecution than you can imagine. You are part of it.”
Once again you have no idea of what persecution is. Have you ever been punched? Spit on? Had things at you? Has anyone tried to kill you? until you step out in faith and proclaim the gospel in the streets you will never know what persecution is.
[DE] Have you ever been slandered on the internet by those who refused to fear God and obey the word? Besides you bring this on yourself railing at the lost instead of Love.
I have already answered all this below. I stand by what I have said. You cant find one verse that limits Kerruso to streets. It is used for everyplace the gospel is spoken. So you slander.
[MC] You said:
Your religious interpretation of evangelism doesn’t work for you because it is not the truth. It is an emulation (copying) of men. The Gospel isnt put forth any better than what we have done constantly and our fruit and confirmations are everywhere.”
Once again you tell me the way ALL preachers in the scriptures used to reach the lost is not the truth is just a big lie and you cannot be an apostle of God and say suck a lie. You are proud my friend and you need to repent from all the lies you have been spreading about evangelism because God’s method is not books and radio.